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For shits and giggles, I took the preview from the module Bryce reviewed today, and had ChatGPT edit the overview, which was 8 pages.

First I asked for an edit for length and clarity. That brought it down to 4 pages.

Then I had it redo the edit, starting with the original document, and editing it using Bryce's review criteria. Which, BTW, ChatGTP said is was already familiar with. This is what it came up with, including my prompts, and excluding my prompts. That brought it up to 12 pages, but with a lot of whitespace.

It offered to make a GM ready handout, which ain't much.

I then asked it to further edit it for length and clarity. Here is the output with the prompts, and without the prompts. That brought it back down to 5 pages.

It offered to format it and put it into a PDF, but then I ran out of free processing.

I haven't compared them all yet, because at some point I need to do the job I'm getting paid for, but my takeaway is that - surprise! - it is better at editing than at generating content.
 
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Then I had it redo the edit, starting with the original document, and editing it using Bryce's review criteria. Which, BTW, ChatGTP said is was already familiar with.

This is somehow not surprising. I'm wondering how many lazy bums are attempting to generate adventures using these criteria and hoping to sneak the product past the man.

I'm still dreaming of a map generator that doesn't suck. Donjon was fun a million years ago, but it's incapable of connecting a room without a corridor.
 
This is somehow not surprising. I'm wondering how many lazy bums are attempting to generate adventures using these criteria and hoping to sneak the product past the man.

I'm still dreaming of a map generator that doesn't suck. Donjon was fun a million years ago, but it's incapable of connecting a room without a corridor.
Something I didn't notice at the time, but the draft that supposedly applied Bryce's criteria added keyed entries. So the final five page draft had more content than the original 12 page starting point. I haven't had a chance to look at the edited drafts to know if they are any good, but my initial impressions of the first edit were that it was better than the original, so my current hypothesis is garbage in, garbage out.

I still wouldn't use it for my day job, but I can see how other people might use it for other applications.
 
On a related note, Blakely mentioned em dashes as a sign of AI. I've noticed when using Office products at work that autocorrect likes to change dashes into em dashes. Perhaps this makes em dashes less reliable as evidence that something was created via AI?

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On a related note, Blakely mentioned em dashes as a sign of AI. I've noticed when using Office products at work that autocorrect likes to change dashes into em dashes. Perhaps this makes em dashes less reliable as evidence that something was created via AI?

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Yeah, that's standard with Word unless you change it. But how many people use Word, really?
 
Me?
I found Google Docs too fiddly.
Why? What do you use?
Sorry, I forgot to use irony font. Pretty much anyone who isn't stick with freeware and doesn't need professional layout software uses Word. I can't think of a business I have had contact with that used anything else since perhaps 2007.
 
Sorry, I forgot to use irony font. Pretty much anyone who isn't stick with freeware and doesn't need professional layout software uses Word. I can't think of a business I have had contact with that used anything else since perhaps 2007.

Lol. The internet is terrible for sarcasm.


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Basic-Fantasy do all their publishing using LibreOffice (or is it Open Office? a different fork).
I know Chris (Solo) does the actual layout post all editing and that it is a chore.
 
OpenOffice fucking sucks. Got a document longer than three pages, or a spreadsheet with more than 10 columns? Oh no, that's too taxing for poor OpenOffice - better just crash the program for no fucking reason.

My digital watch is a more powerful word processor than OpenOffice.
 
Sorry, I forgot to use irony font. Pretty much anyone who isn't stick with freeware and doesn't need professional layout software uses Word. I can't think of a business I have had contact with that used anything else since perhaps 2007.
On reflection, my kids are more or less forced to use Google Docs by their schools. Junior high, high school and university.
 
On reflection, my kids are more or less forced to use Google Docs by their schools. Junior high, high school and university.

It's a good thing I'm not a parent, that would probably piss me off. On the other hand, I suppose it does make sense.

My place of work has a similar situation with Microsoft Teams, and I hate it. We're associated with a university so it's either part of a license with MS or maybe it was chosen because it was free, but it has...issues. They created it to be used in schools so any time you use parentheses you run the risk of having your text converted into an emoticon. Instead of writing (3 Days) I have to write ( 3 days), or the 3 turns into a heart. Good thing we're not sending code to each other over Teams, that would be a disaster!

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It's a good thing I'm not a parent, that would probably piss me off. On the other hand, I suppose it does make sense.

My place of work has a similar situation with Microsoft Teams, and I hate it. We're associated with a university so it's either part of a license with MS or maybe it was chosen because it was free, but it has...issues. They created it to be used in schools so any time you use parentheses you run the risk of having your text converted into an emoticon. Instead of writing (3 Days) I have to write ( 3 days), or the 3 turns into a heart. Good thing we're not sending code to each other over Teams, that would be a disaster!

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I can't get Teams to work to save my life. Like, the UI doesn't even give me options to do things like start or schedule meetings, and I can't join meetings with the desktop application. I've tried it on different computers and using different accounts, and it makes not difference. I've kind of come to the conclusion that you need IT professionals on staff to make it work, and since I run a small business that doesn't need really any IT support that I can't do myself, its just cheaper and less aggravating to use Zoom.
 
I can't get Teams to work to save my life. Like, the UI doesn't even give me options to do things like start or schedule meetings, and I can't join meetings with the desktop application. I've tried it on different computers and using different accounts, and it makes not difference. I've kind of come to the conclusion that you need IT professionals on staff to make it work, and since I run a small business that doesn't need really any IT support that I can't do myself, its just cheaper and less aggravating to use Zoom.

That's interesting. I rarely need to set up meetings but had to create one yesterday (what a coincidence!). I have your problem, doing it directly in Teams doesn't seem to work. However, I have been able to create Teams meetings in Outlook, so there's that. They're fairly well integrated. Do you use Outlook too?

Teams is an abomination. Its ok for trivial messaging but my lot are using it as an information store. 😢

I have that same problem at work. Some information should be placed in a ticket, or at least email. Teams does seem to be more searchable now, which is a plus.


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