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DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
Yes, you've quoted that a few times, and are (perhaps unironically) very good at adhering to said command.
Again, do you think IMDB is lying, that only feminine-centric films are being produced? That of the nearly fifteen thousand movies released in a single year, that every one of them has feminist leanings and are too woke for their own good?
Why are you rejecting the evidence of your eyes and ears?
Again, do you think IMDB is lying, that only feminine-centric films are being produced? That of the nearly fifteen thousand movies released in a single year, that every one of them has feminist leanings and are too woke for their own good?
Why are you rejecting the evidence of your eyes and ears?
Beoric
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Captain Marvel and Barbie weren't your picks.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
Squeen's kids are Deep State, confirmed! Squeen, they've clearly stolen your sperm to push their leftist agenda! Making you watch all this bleeding heart, pro-inclusivity propaganda disguised as movies... you should probably ship them to El Salvador, just to be safe!
Remember, don't trust your eyes and ears! It's the Final Command!
squeen
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@DP: Knowing as I do now, that you are a professional propagandist/bullshit-er, it explains a lot about how you argue. It's very hard for me to take anything you say as seriously genuine, or (to be honest) feel it's worth my time debating you. You are, by definition, an un-elected state bureaucrat who seeks to influence the electorate rather than execute its will---and that's really all the Deep State is: the managerial class and their lackeys.
@Beoric : Just random examples. Doesn't really matter who picks it. If the movie was made 2015-2023 (and was big-budget?), there is a 80%+ chance it will contain a "critical X theory" (sub)theme: where X is gender, race, etc. Maybe that's what most folks enjoy swallowing these days, but I've grown quite sensitive to it. Enough of the toxicity has accumulated in my system due to overexposure that I've developed an allergic reaction. I believe such topics are intended to break down a culture/system to make it pliable. It's no accident. I've been learning a bit of 19th century history, and it's exactly what colonial empires strategically did to indigenous groups to keep them manageable. Nothing new.
Anywho, back to the article you asked for comments on: I read it. Thanks for posting it. That was my $0.02. Not going to change my mind. Presumably you posted it to hear other people's point of view. Done.
@Beoric : Just random examples. Doesn't really matter who picks it. If the movie was made 2015-2023 (and was big-budget?), there is a 80%+ chance it will contain a "critical X theory" (sub)theme: where X is gender, race, etc. Maybe that's what most folks enjoy swallowing these days, but I've grown quite sensitive to it. Enough of the toxicity has accumulated in my system due to overexposure that I've developed an allergic reaction. I believe such topics are intended to break down a culture/system to make it pliable. It's no accident. I've been learning a bit of 19th century history, and it's exactly what colonial empires strategically did to indigenous groups to keep them manageable. Nothing new.
Anywho, back to the article you asked for comments on: I read it. Thanks for posting it. That was my $0.02. Not going to change my mind. Presumably you posted it to hear other people's point of view. Done.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
And you are, by definition, completely paranoid. You see puppeteers in the shadows and agendas in the clouds. You think everyone with an ounce of authority is out to get you. You only listen to specific sources (who tell you to deny all other sources - yeah, that's not suspicious at all...), and then project your echo chamber insecurities onto the world. Classic manipulation victim, textbook case of paranoia, perfect example of psychological projection. Truly your kind will be a case study in future Psychology/Sociology textbooks, assuming your orange god-emperor doesn't command you to burn them all (oh, but you blindly trust him, the world's most prolific liar... makes total sense!).
Frankly, I'm glad you don't want to "debate" me. It's like "debating" a flat-earther, anti-vaxxer, or Scientologist... people who plug their ears to facts and bathe in the Kool-aid. Your kind cannot be steered back to sanity, and I am tired of pretending that you can be. Some folk are just lost causes, and sadly you are one of them.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
I'm also not a propagandist, you absolute lunatic! Civil servants are just normal people, not some shadowy cabal. Unless I can somehow control minds using Microsoft Excel, nothing I do could ever be construed as "influencing the electorate". As a federal worker, I'm not even allowed to talk about who I vote for, let alone try to manipulate anyone into voting a certain way (which you might know if you ever actually met a civil servant in real life, and didn't just parrot talking points from other crazy people who have never worked for a government before). You have no fucking clue.
Pleading for sanity is not propaganda.
Pleading for sanity is not propaganda.
Beoric
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Dude, I'm in the business to know these things and I have no idea what history you are talking about.
EDIT: Thinking about what you might be getting at, governments did force Indigenous kids into schools to try to "kill the Indian in the child," but they weren't doing that by making them woke. They were doing that by forcing them to learn about a culture that was not their own, but was a culture that you, yourself, identify with and think is right and proper.
And if you think being forced to attend a boarding school where you were subject to physical, mental and sexual abuse, and receiving that same abuse if you practiced your language or culture, is equivalent to movies being made that you don't have to watch, actually, and that have a theme you disagree with, I really don't know what to say to you.
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squeen
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I thought you said you were in advertising. My mistake.
British empire colonies in the middle-east & Asia. Soviet-controlled satellites in eastern Europe.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
I said my college major was in Advertising - and like most people, my job has nothing to do with my degree, and I've already forgotten 95% of what I learned in college.
Plus even if my job was in advertising, you do at least realize that propaganda and advertising are different things, right? "Marketing" is not "Mind Control". "Graphic Design" is not "Subliminal Messages". Making a TV commercial that says "come shop at Target" is quite different from one that says "your taxes are high because of leftists and illegal immigrants".
Like, if your job is writing code, am I allowed to declare you a hacker criminal whose opinions are thus invalidated? If you're a pharmacist, can I call the cops on your drug dealing? Because that's the treatment you're giving to me (which I suppose tracks for someone with paranoia issues).
squeen
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Sliding spectrum. I don't think typical propaganda is MKUltra either.
Boy! I'll tell ya. The conclusions some folks jump to when you say unorthodox things!
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
Tell me about it. You say something innocuous like "I majored in Advertising in college", and suddenly they declare you a Deep State propagandist trying to mind control the electorate.
You know what else is a sliding spectrum? Sanity.
The1True
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Oh my god Squeen. It's OKAY. You ARE kenough.
The1True
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Can we unpack this, because I'm having real trouble understanding people's current hatred of their civil services.
I mean, shit just doesn't function without one, y'know? Like, these sovereign citizens driving on roads built and maintained by the government claiming they don't have to abide by the government's laws or pay their share for the maintenance of this fundamental infrastructure. It's fucking confusing for me.
Truckers absolutely fucked up my town a couple of years back and the general attitude was "yeah, fuck the capital and all the freeloaders working there" and it absolutely boggles my mind. Sure, there are some overpaid dipshits who do absolutely nothing all day but occasionally impede their hard-working colleagues, but how is this any different from any other business. My wife, and many of my friends are civil servants, and these people work their butts off to keep their nations running.
Seriously.
Look at all the privatization that went on in the 90's and the resulting corruption, incompetence, and waste, and tell me that THIS time it's going to work for realsies you guys.
Beoric
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Seriously though, private business is good at some things and crappy at others. Government is good at some things that business sucks at, but isn't good at business. That gets completely screwed up if you ask private business to take on government functions (governments should be provide services to maximize the public good, whereas businesses provide services to maximize their own benefits), or when governments are forced to act like businesses (which causes government services to break down because the wrong things are being prioritized).
Generally, and allowing for individual exceptions, public servants have chosen a career with lower prestige and lower pay than they could get with the same credentials in the private sector because they believe in what they are doing. I applaud anyone who devotes their life to serving the public.
I have more to say on this but I'm running late.
Generally, and allowing for individual exceptions, public servants have chosen a career with lower prestige and lower pay than they could get with the same credentials in the private sector because they believe in what they are doing. I applaud anyone who devotes their life to serving the public.
I have more to say on this but I'm running late.
squeen
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It's the size of the government & agency capture that irks and how it has taken over everything since globalization hollowed out US domestic industry (except print-printing, finance & real estate). Wealth concentration and a managerial class that feels too much like the Old World aristocracy. The American Revolution, a Bill of Rights (that brilliantly & solely limits government's power over it's own people), and the radical experiment of self-governance by the common man is a historical anomaly---constantly in danger of becoming just a speed-bump.
Whatever the system, there are those who will attempt to game and rig it. Sometimes the powerful succeed. Perpetual one/uni-party rule (looking at you California) is always a looming possibility. US debt is at $34T and increasing by $1T every 100 days, rapidly becoming existential. Global debt has ballooned across the board.
Likewise, US politicians revel in foreign affairs because overseas there are no courts with jurisdiction over them. The door to corruption is thrown wide open without a proper backstop. US, as the world's leader, has been headless for the previous 4 years. Unelected bureaucrats and special interests ran rampant---chaos ensued.
While, the state of the West is not terminal, but you must really have your head in the sand to not recognize we are living through a transitional period in history. The post-WWII global pax-americana era is ending, and no one is certain what will emerge next.
The culture-war that we often clash on is not the cause, it's just a side-effect.
Whatever the system, there are those who will attempt to game and rig it. Sometimes the powerful succeed. Perpetual one/uni-party rule (looking at you California) is always a looming possibility. US debt is at $34T and increasing by $1T every 100 days, rapidly becoming existential. Global debt has ballooned across the board.
Likewise, US politicians revel in foreign affairs because overseas there are no courts with jurisdiction over them. The door to corruption is thrown wide open without a proper backstop. US, as the world's leader, has been headless for the previous 4 years. Unelected bureaucrats and special interests ran rampant---chaos ensued.
While, the state of the West is not terminal, but you must really have your head in the sand to not recognize we are living through a transitional period in history. The post-WWII global pax-americana era is ending, and no one is certain what will emerge next.
The culture-war that we often clash on is not the cause, it's just a side-effect.
squeen
8, 8, I forget what is for
More than anything, that message: You go be Ken all by yourself (kenough), and I'll go be Barbie by myself (and visit my gynecologists to get off!?!), was the truly saddest, most anti-human, message of the movie. Mental poison for a lonely, isolated world.Oh my god Squeen. It's OKAY. You ARE kenough.
Men & women need each other. Love and family matters more than just about anything else.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
"You have a problem with 3 films. You form an opinion on these 3 films. You make a sweeping claim about the entire industry based on these 3 films. You will need more than 3 films to prove a trend. There are 19,740 films to choose from - I included a hyperlink to them all. Find the trend, or shut up with the conspiracy nonsense."